They are much BIGGER than someone who may crack a sad or waltz off in a huff.Whilst it’s tough for them to crack a spot in the League side,they are VALUED Players who can play a part in the Club’s PROMISING progress by CONTRIBUTING on a consistent basis,be it RESERVES or LEAGUE.

whitedm - 12 May 2008 07:55 AM

Cokes - 12 May 2008 03:43 AM

If the Demons Nugent, Coker, Power some of these guys in second year of
ressies cannot gain a league start this year I would recommend they go to another club where their talent may be recognised and they get a game.
These guys aren’t interested in the Demons Depth they want to play league with
any WAFL club whom recognises their efforts and gives them a fair go and a run.
Idealy they would prefer Perth but hey its just another WAFL club.

Cokes I get the feeling you’re a relative or friend of Coker and don’t really support Perth. To be a successful club at any level you need to have good depth and just because we’ve got 3 or 4 that possibly deserve a game but can’t crack one just right now doesn’t mean they should look elsewhere.

If we were like Subi and bought 3 or 4 players every year and have 10 - 15 guys missing out who would get a league game elsewhere then fair enough. As you know I’m in Cokes corner and have pushed for him and Nugent to be promoted. If neither get a game all year then we might have trouble hanging onto them but they are not setting the world on fire so they would not be guaranteed a league game elsewhere, they are still very much in the learning phase but giving them a taste of league action would help fast track that I believe.

Give them 2 or 3 games then drop them back until their form demands they can’t be dropped.

Freezin, did you ignore this post? Stop trying to unsettle our club by suggesting some of our players should look elsewhere. As you well know behind every successful club there are players who are unlucky to miss out and have to really work hard to get a game, that’s what makes a club successful, every player is pushed to the limit to keep their spot or earn a league game.

Last season our club finished a distant last overall in all 3 grades. Now the wheel is turning a little with our colts and league doing well and our reserves are now starting to put some wins on the board but are still outside the four. We haven’t made finals yet, we haven’t won premiership’s but already some of you are suggesting we are like Subiaco and some of our players should leave if they are not getting a league game.

Sounds like a fan of a struggling club who’s a bit jealous that another regular cellar dweller is having a promising season for a change and maybe you’re still hurting that Luke Nugent was snapped up by Perth for nothing due to your clubs lack of due diligence. Fact is mate Luke is struggling with injury and fitness and has been for most of his time at Perth and he wouldn’t be getting a league game in front of Griffiths or Young.

I tell you this, I would be very excited if I were playing reserves for Perth right now and i would be busting my gut to make sure my name is up for discussion on selection night, particularly toward the latter half of the season if it looks like we might make the four.

Well said Whitey.

yep well said Whitey.....did I ignore that post..yep sure did!......am I jealous of Perth’s success ....no not really… couldn’t give a stuff if Perth make the finals and EF don’t....I’m 40 mate not 15!!...Griffiths is playing reerves from last looksie and Young is a tall KP defender, so yep poor Luke would be struggling as you say for a league spot!....yep I probably am peed off Nugent is at Perth and not EF...but come end of the day the kid left to play league footy, good on him, am I peed off that he didn’t stay,.....now what did Grassy say?...”

enough character to put club before individual”

If West Perth hang on to their talls this week(from afl duties) then i think this should be the week we promote either Nuggent or Cocker,i personally lean towards Nuugent getting a game.

At some stage in the coming weeks the coaches will have to look at a rucking combination of Sullivan/Nuggent or Sullivan/Cocker,if for nothing else just to see how it works out.

Kreuger and Thornton have to play forward which leaves Cruttenden as the only genuine tall down back.
The match ups this week will be crucial to getting the 4 points.
I dont think we can cover all their talls so the midfield and ruck clearances in the middle become extra important.

I wonder if there is a specialist kicking coach going through the set shots for goal with Ransted?His routine,holding of the ball,his follow through etc…
Players should not be missing set shots from 35-40 out dead in front on a regular basis..

Bradley & Le Cras were a head ache in our last Scratch match - put Campbell Warnock & Seaby in the equasion & you would think could not play Siekierka Heise & Johnson in our Back Line

If they have 1 of Warnock or Seaby in the Ruck (&/or Kuenen) then they can play 4 Genuine Talls

So we have Cruttenden & Billings as Talls down Back at the moment I’m not sure who you play back there

In the Past Thornton can go back on a Tall as can Zucconi but both have been very valuable at CHF & On Ball in recent weeks

For mine Krueger could go back on Bradley - he did a good job on Smith & could make life very hard for KKepler

Then Nugent or Coker could come in to do back up Ruck Work for Sullivan & we could still have 1 of Thronton up Forward or perhaps more importantly Zucconi in the M Field

The only way we can afford to play Kreuger down back is if we can keep Mayne.

I have a different view on Kreugers performance on Smith.He still ended up with 6 could have had 10,he missed some easy shots by his standards on that day.

Can we afford to have a full back do a good job on a FF and that player still bags 6?
I reckon Billings should take Le Cras,Cruttenden will have to take Campbell,the match up we will find diffucult is Bradley.
If Warnock and Seaby both play we have no option but to promote Nuggent or Cocker.
West Perth have some tall timber and if they stack there forward line even if we have Kreuger down there we just dont have enough tall stuff ourselves to cover them.
I reckon our best footy played this season has seen us line up Kreuger at FF and Thornton at CHF.If we start mucking around with that combination i think its unsettling the team balance.

Once again got 3 in the 1st 1/4 when learning the ropes of playing back for the 1st time

Then kept Smith Goaless for 2nd & 3rd 1/4’s!!

In 4th they had something like 40 Inside 50’s and all delivered to the Hands of leading forwards Scarlett would not have kept Smith Goaless in that 1/4

Tell me who else in the Club can match Bradley physically? Zucconi couldn’t & he’s our strongest - this guy is taking 12+ marks per game at CHF and is very dangerous WAFL forward - Especially with W Perth Mosquito fleet arround - he must be stopped

justheshot - 13 May 2008 01:51 AM

Once again got 3 in the 1st 1/4 when learning the ropes of playing back for the 1st time

Then kept Smith Goaless for 2nd & 3rd 1/4’s!!

In 4th they had something like 40 Inside 50’s and all delivered to the Hands of leading forwards Scarlett would not have kept Smith Goaless in that 1/4

Tell me who else in the Club can match Bradley physically? Zucconi couldn’t & he’s our strongest - this guy is taking 12+ marks per game at CHF and is very dangerous WAFL forward - Especially with W Perth Mosquito fleet arround - he must be stopped

Its all difference of opinion.
The same could be said of the South player on Ransted,kicked 7 for the day in 2 quarters.Same as Smith i think,1st and last quarters.

The whole idea of off season recruiting is you get players at the club can play down back on the likes of a Bradley.If we dont have any then you make do.
I think this week Zucconi may have to play down back,we can cover him in the midfield better than we can cover Kreuger in the forward line.

I just cant see that shuffling your 2 key forwards down back every time we play a team with tall forwards is doing us any good.

scarr - 13 May 2008 02:01 AM

I just cant see that shuffling your 2 key forwards down back every time we play a team with tall forwards is doing us any good.

Agree totally. I don’t want to see a negative game plan like was employed against Subi. We should go into this game trying to play to our strengths and back our midfielders and forwards to do the job. If WP get on top in the midfield and their forwards are causing some damage, then look at switching someone down back but don’t go into the game with a negative mind set.

If we get scoreboard pressure on early like we did against SF then they’ll be worrying about us and making all the moves. We are one win better than them atm so we should be backing ourselves.

WP had the same line up against Subi and they were pathetic, they look a bit soft in the midfield but they’ve added Kelly in the last 2 games and he’s giving them something in the clearances but he doesn’t play a lot of minutes because of his lack of fitness.

Our midfield should be able to run them ragged and it’s up to the forwards to do their job.

If WP have Warnock and Seaby or go in with Warnock and Keunen then I think we need a back up ruckman for Sullivan.

If the AFL selections go our way again…

I wouldn’t bank on WP having Seaby. I believe he was held out of their game against Peel by West Coast, the obvious reason being he is required this week in the AFL and had to have a week off.

I would reckon there is also an outside chance Warnock will go into the Dockers side. And Campbell after 10 last week might go into the Dockers to replace someone like Murphy.

This potentially takes out the big man dangers.

Also, not considering any ruckmen in this, the following could go back for us if required…
189cm McLernon
192cm Cruttenden
190cm Billings
191cm Zucconi
196cm Krueger

And what I wouldn’t want to see…
190cm Thornton

West Perth have
198 Bradley
192 Campbell
187 Le Cras
194 Atkinson
199 Keunen
192 Pearce

If it’s fine, it’s really up to us to use our midfield grunt & experience inside with Cook & Young and the pace of the younger brigade to do the damage.

Added to our midfield pace, if we can get quick and accurate delivery to Thornton & Ransted then WP will struggle to match these two which will offset their forward line height. Also think McLernon, Billings & Cruttenden can expliot the WP forward talls by running off when possible.

We just need to maintain our intensity, tackling and self belief and hopefully we’ll string 3 together.

Good to see you blokes are concerned, hope your selection committee are putting as much thought into it as you blokes are.

Don’t stress boys, as mentioned before, Campbell, Seaby, Warnock will definately play AFL this week. Bradley is a massive chance this week also, but I cant see them all playing in the 1 Freo side (exclude Seaby of coarse).

Our midfield is not the best, but we have injected some tough young lads with a bit of pace, 1 of those boys got in our top 3 in only his 2nd game, Kelly whether you like him or not has made a difference in his 2 games (both wins).

Good luck and I can only hope WP can stick with you blokes to make it a good tight contest .

Phil Bradmore

WP will have Seaby this week, they only held him over in case Cox got injured in Hall of Fame match.

Willy Raper

Unfortunatley for this match I think AFL selections could have a major say. The Falcons could lose Campbell Seasby Warnock and Bradley which would decimate them but on the other hand we could lose Armstrong Mayne Johnson and perhaps Selwood who probably had his best game for the season. I’d rather they all play and have the best team win but it looks like a few will go. According to Channel ten West will lose Warnock Bradley and Campbell but they said Perth should lose Johnson and Mayne to the Dockers and Armstrong to west coast. Not all these blokes can fit in the same Froe line up so it will be such a key as to who goes. My tip is Campbell to stay because Murphy deserves another game and they don’t have the guts to drop Tarrant. Warnock should go in for Gilmore though. Seaby will play for West Perth coz Lynch is doing a job as the second ruck for West Coast

Howsa Boutashag

Shit ! I dont know, lets leave it until later on in the week for AFL selections. Sacko you are right mate, AFL experience will have a massive bearing so lets hope they take a couple from each side and then we can thrash it out.

The prick of a thing will be that some of our players may do emergency stints which would piss me right off if its 1 or 2 of our boys ( just our friggen luck).

Anyway I love watching footy at Lathlain, in my mind i think it is the best ground to watch footy at, reminds me of the leederville days before the 2 x wankers f#cked it up !!!

Noel Mugavin