For clubs who have 4 or more teams, after your top team is selected, which team follows next?
Does your reserve team get the next best 22? Or do they go in your next league team such as E League?

A colts then your next colts side.

League, Reserves, Thirds (E Grade) and then Fourths (E Reserve).

Simple mate.

If E League ( thirds) Win a GF do they do up to D grade.. and if they do would the E grade team GF be more important to the club than the reserve side GF. ?

Assume at this stage E grade will remain as all the A grade and some B grades 3rds teams. They will try and do something to even it up, as its been too lopsided this year, and its not fair on Kingsley, Ocean Ridge, Swan Ath.... etc.

E grade winners don’t at this stage go up to D grade. I can’t see why this can’t happen or are there logistical reasons? North Freo have been the strongest side for years in this grade and would beat most D grade teams I would think if they went up.

The league I can only assume wants to keep all 3’s and 4’s sides together which made the E grade uneven this year and with too many teams. Hopefully either teams are added and it’s split in to two grades or the lower sides are relegated down to F and G grade maybe.

This topic gets tossed up every year, It is very hard for a clubs third 22 and fourth 22 to compete against a smaller clubs first 22 and second 22.  As what happened a couple years back when Whitties thirds and fourths were playing E grade against other clubs ones and twos everyone thought whitties would be walk up starters for the flag but from memory struggled to win a game all year.
Thats not to say a team like north freo wouldnt win a few but against the final contenders from the grade higher not a chance.

But this would even out over time and they would end up in the right grade wouldn’t they? If they got beat by everyone in D’s and finished in the bottom two they would then go back down to E’s.

Can understand it would be more uneven in the ressies, especially in the middle of the year when the 4’s teams struggle for numbers so maybe that’s a major concern.

TOTS sorry to break it to you but the teams you where playing then where the 4’s and 5’s of whitties as they had the a3 and b3 comp then. the leauge put an end to the top teams teams being promoted relegated when you where getting teams like Scabs and NB playing off in the C grade GF as well as Scabs i think came 4th that year and beach played in the GF for A grade. All the C grade clubs that had there first teams in that year had a sook that they didnt have a chance of playing in the GF so the leauge put an end to it.

Yeah selections go top side, top reserves, next grade, next reserves, etc…

E Grade and E Res are tied to A Grade for fixturing reasons - it’s hard enough finding home grounds and fixturing them, but if A Grade and E clubs are basically the same, clubs can have their 1s and 2s (ressies) playing at home and their 3s and 4s (ressies) playing away, and vice versa, against the same opposition so fixturing is a bit easier.

But a 15 team E grade, and a 14 team D grade? Surely that should be split into 3 grades of 9 and 10 teams.

A club with up to 4 senior and 2 colts only require 1 ground if they play alternate weeks

Should clubs be allowed to nominate large numbers of teams if they don’t have a ground to play on? Is this also preventing the smaller neighboring clubs from growing?

That was the case last year Handler with only 10 teams in the E Grade and it worked a lot better! The 10 teams were virtually aligned with the A Grade clubs.

I think this year with extra sides coming in to the league the teams had to go somewhere which is fine but I can’t see why an extra grade couldn’t have been created to split the E Grade.

To me Scarborough who had 3’s and 4’s (in F and G grade) should have been in E’s as well and then there would have been an even 16 teams or even better two grades of 8 (I notice Scarbs F grade has not lost a game all year!). They would all play each other once Home and Away then.

I think two even grades of 8 teams playing each other a few times would be better than an uneven grade of 16. The top 8 teams could be the A grade clubs mainly and bottom 8 the rest. You could even have some sort of play off at the end of the year between winners of the two grades or a cross over final 8 system maybe? Or could we go down the conference path and have two even grades who play their own conference teams twice and then 4 teams from the other conference? Would create a bit of interest I think but maybe nightmares for fixturing!!!

F and G grade (for sides with only a 3’s team, or 5ths!) would lose the Scarborough teams but still would have had 9 teams in each grade which is still ok in terms of fixturing - just gives them two byes during the year.

Maybe Scarbs put the 4’s team in late and it was too late to change fixtures but something to consider for next year.

Cow Town - 31 August 2010 03:08 PM

TOTS sorry to break it to you but the teams you where playing then where the 4’s and 5’s of whitties as they had the a3 and b3 comp then. the leauge put an end to the top teams teams being promoted relegated when you where getting teams like Scabs and NB playing off in the C grade GF as well as Scabs i think came 4th that year and beach played in the GF for A grade. All the C grade clubs that had there first teams in that year had a sook that they didnt have a chance of playing in the GF so the leauge put an end to it.

Your way off the mark there Cowtown. i was playing C Grade in 1996 which is the year before the gradings change from open slather A to L to the current system of League and reserves and was only looking at a few year books (that was b4 the internet when the leagues ladders were all on paper) a few weeks ago from 1996 and the laders of the year. In C Grade ther were 3 A grade clubs seconds and they all finished near the bottom.Scarbs and Nth Beach definately never played of in C Grade flags. The other A grade clubs 2nds were in D E and F with Unis finishing last in B Grade. The general consensus was that C and D Grade was far too strong for A Grade clubs seconds and that the system needed to change and it was the A Grade clubs sooking not the c Grade clubs.  There was only 1 up 1 down at the time so it was hard to get out of a grade you were uncompetive in and the A grade clubs wanted a grade gor their own 2nds.  Most A grade clubs 3rds were in f through i grade.