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In Light of ST KILDA STORY,Calling PAUL MURRAY
Posted: 22 June 2010 06:27 PM   [ Ignore ]
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Given you broke the story on a Certain Footballer over here whom had the Powers that Be on BOTH Sides of Poltics SWEEP IT UNDER THE CARPET only to have the story PULLED,over to you PAUL.......

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Posted: 23 June 2010 11:35 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]
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in English, please?

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Posted: 23 June 2010 12:53 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]
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grassy - 22 June 2010 06:27 PM

Given you broke the story on a Certain Footballer over here whom had the Powers that Be on BOTH Sides of Poltics SWEEP IT UNDER THE CARPET only to have the story PULLED,over to you PAUL.......

UMMMMM !!!!!!! ?????
What does all this mumbo jumbo mean.
Spit it our grassy,tell us what you are talking about.

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Posted: 23 June 2010 01:04 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]
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grassy - 22 June 2010 06:27 PM

Given you broke the story on a Certain Footballer over here whom had the Powers that Be on BOTH Sides of Poltics SWEEP IT UNDER THE CARPET only to have the story PULLED,over to you PAUL.......

Incoherent ramblings direct from the “Riddler”…???

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Posted: 23 June 2010 01:06 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]
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Can someone tell me what this thread is about? Or do I need to drink half a bottle of scotch to grasp it?

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Posted: 23 June 2010 01:44 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]
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I dont think Grassy can tell you what its about, I dont think Grassy himself knows!!!!!!!

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Posted: 23 June 2010 02:32 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]
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Now lets think really hard guys.... St Kilda story = Milne
Paul Murray = investigative journalist

So the way I read it Murray must of bought it up on his old 6pr show or in the West when the editor or whatever?

So Grassy assumes Paul reads the Footy Goss and will come forward and say I told you so..

Thats the way I read it and it took 1 minute to work that out - I think?

Similar to a story on a Well known Perth Footballer who was up on charges and his Friend told the Child Abuse squad to drop it.
Well documented in the press. A certain Female Police Sgt was driven to almost having a nervous break down over it from memory..

No libel there as it was all in the West when it occurred… They even kept the players name a secret to a point and it died as things do in the Media.

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Posted: 23 June 2010 07:33 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]
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Yes,Cardy.PAUL dd break the story and the issue was more than what accusations were facing the Accused.It was the Claim and a SERIOUS ONE at that,that BOTH SIDES of the Political Fence went to Great lengths to have the case DROPPED.

As quickly as that story went to Air,it was DROPPED.Same thing with the HERALD SUN in MELBOURNE,who UNCHARACTERISTICALLY DROPPED the Proverbial HOTCAKE.Most unlike them to let go of a story like that when they’ve ALWAYS BANGED ON about the PUBLIC’S RIGHT TO KNOW and almost NEVER BACKED OFF on REDHOT stories like that.

Which to me Proved more than just a few Powerfull Influences over here had some ALMIGHTY CLOUT in putting Paid to that story.And not just the best QC’s,it went a whole lot higher than that.They surely would have to have as NEWS LIMITED(especially in Sydney and Melbourne)are NO SHRINKING VIOLETS and have their Own ARMY of QC’S armed to the Teeth in defence of ALL THINGS NEWS LIMITED.

I wouldn’t mind PAUL revisting this issue,not so much to Investigate the case itself.The accused may well have been INNOCENT of any accusation thrown his way.But to Get to the Bottom of which POLITICAL FIGURES may have questions to answer in ATTEMPTING TO PERVERT THE COURSE of JUSTICE,if the issue does go All the way to the top.

Anyone who Doubts things like this stop with the Police ought to Read the Embarassment the PREMIER of VICTORIA(as well as VICTORIA POLICE) caused himself in the Rush to ASSERT PUBLICLY not once but TWICE,that the officer behind the serious allegations of Interference “had never made an internal complaint.”

This sort of FALSE Claim HAS TO BE INVESTIGATED thoroughly and INEPENDENTLY.By whom I wouldn’t know.But whether BRUMBY and VICTORIA POLICE did so INTENTIONALLY or otherwise CAN NOT be left to go through to the keeper.

As does the case about who did what over here to stop a case of a Well known Sporting Identity ever seeing Light of Day.And if there is EVIDENCE of CLEAR CORRUPTION at the Highest Level of Government in a State,the GUILTY PARTIES MUST BE BROUGHT TO BOOK.

Regardless of what side of the Political Fence they belong to.That it was possibly BOTH the Major Parties involved if proved True,would be a DAMNING INDICTMENT on the State of WESTERN AUSTRALIA.

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Posted: 23 June 2010 07:43 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 8 ]
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cardy - 23 June 2010 02:32 PM

Now lets think really hard guys.... St Kilda story = Milne
Paul Murray = investigative journalist

So the way I read it Murray must of bought it up on his old 6pr show or in the West when the editor or whatever?

So Grassy assumes Paul reads the Footy Goss and will come forward and say I told you so..

Thats the way I read it and it took 1 minute to work that out - I think?

Similar to a story on a Well known Perth Footballer who was up on charges and his Friend told the Child Abuse squad to drop it.
Well documented in the press. A certain Female Police Sgt was driven to almost having a nervous break down over it from memory..


No libel there as it was all in the West when it occurred… They even kept the players name a secret to a point and it died as things do in the Media.

Exactly why when I read articles about this “wonderful” footballer I turn away in disgust.  Shows the level of the press’s morals.

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Posted: 23 June 2010 07:57 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 9 ]
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58shark - 23 June 2010 07:43 PM

cardy - 23 June 2010 02:32 PM
Now lets think really hard guys.... St Kilda story = Milne
Paul Murray = investigative journalist

So the way I read it Murray must of bought it up on his old 6pr show or in the West when the editor or whatever?

So Grassy assumes Paul reads the Footy Goss and will come forward and say I told you so..

Thats the way I read it and it took 1 minute to work that out - I think?

Similar to a story on a Well known Perth Footballer who was up on charges and his Friend told the Child Abuse squad to drop it.
Well documented in the press. A certain Female Police Sgt was driven to almost having a nervous break down over it from memory..


No libel there as it was all in the West when it occurred… They even kept the players name a secret to a point and it died as things do in the Media.

Exactly why when I read articles about this “wonderful” footballer I turn away in disgust.  Shows the level of the press’s morals.

yup agree the media is bad, as are the half-wits who ring up 6pr, and because (whoever it is) is a famous sportsman all is forgiven, or an error of judgement....SPARE ME

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Posted: 23 June 2010 08:31 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 10 ]
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Thankyou Grassy.. Lets hope what goes around comes around.
Thankyou FootyGoss for editing my earlier post with names. Lets not get to paranoid as my subject was a Matter of public record and it came out in the royal commission.
You cant be sued for quoting Newspaper articles…

To expand on the subject Which gives me great Joy.
I refer to David Caporn who has got a nice job with FESA and was selected for the job by a X police officer (Cronyism?). This was investigated and nothing came of it.
Lets remember this “person” left the Police Force after being told he was to be reprimaned Punished over the Mallard case (the tip of he iceberg)

As a person who believes in the saying

“For evil to exist - good men must do nothing” I will continue…

First instalment (Goss if you want to delete my posts it is your decision)

Source: Australian, The, SEP 17, 2002
Item: 200209174004082572

Edition: 4
Section: Local, pg. 004

THE Perth sports identity at the centre of allegations of high-level
police interference defended himself yesterday against child sexual
abuse accusations, claiming the relationship with his accuser
was ``an affair I’d had when she was married’’.

The man, whose name has been suppressed at the police royal commission,
denied being involved in any crime—although he was not specifically
questioned about claims he molested the woman, codenamed
Q1, over 15 years, from the time she was aged 13.

The man, Q2, was called to the inquiry to testify about whether he
was given special treatment in 1998-99 because of his profile and
his association with Deputy Commissioner Bruce Brennan, with whom
he shares an interest in cycling.

He denied ever having spoken to Mr Brennan about Q1’s complaint, and
said the arrival on his doorstep of child abuse detectives came
``out of the blue’’.

His wife called his lawyer, Michael McPhee, as soon as he was taken
to the police station, where a video interview was stopped within
minutes of it having begun.

It was a coincidence his lawyer’s name and telephone number were written
as a diary entry for the day before his arrest, he said. ``I
wasn’t expecting anyone to arrive,’’ he told the commission.

Q2 said he had assumed the police were visiting because of Q1’s complaint,
which he had become aware of when visiting Q1’s mother some
time before the police investigation.

She had screamed at him about his treatment of Q1.

``When the abuse first started, and she was yelling and screaming,
I thought it was about the affair I’d had with Q1 when she was married,’’
he told the commission. ``She used the words, `you shouldn’t
be working in schools’.

``I went straight home and told my wife.’’

Q2 admitted calling Mr Brennan on his direct line ``three or four
weeks ago’’ but said it was not to discuss publicity surrounding
his case. ``I rang him to see if he was riding his bike ... it was
kind of a joke,’’ he said. ``That’s all.’’

Earlier yesterday, the royal commission was told by case investigator
Cristina Italiano, fellow detective Joanne Connolly and former
child abuse unit chief Mick Miller that an inordinate amount of
attention was paid to the Q2 case by senior police, including Superintendent
David Caporn.

Constable Italiano said she considered it ``corrupt’’ that Q2 was
not charged, although she conceded she had not read Director of Public
Prosecution opinions that there was not enough evidence to
sustain charges.

``Any reasonable police officer would say there was enough evidence
to charge,’’ she said.

``At the end of the day, the file was treated differently because
of who Q2 was.’’

The commission heard there were 37 memos generated by the case, which
Senior Sergeant Miller said had ``died a death by memo’’.

Outside the commission yesterday, lawyer John Hammond said another
policeman had come forward to complain about a separate but similar
case of alleged high-level interference in the charging of a
suspect.

Copyright 2002 / The Australian

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Source: Australian, The, SEP 12, 2002
Item: 200209124004600792

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Posted: 23 June 2010 08:46 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 11 ]
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DEATH by Memo eh?Anonymous to us No doubt.

Look,this wasn’t designed to bring the spotlight on the Individuals in the case(but I appreciate your researh Cardy)but HIGHLIGHT how POWERFULL Forces High Up in Government can WIELD an UNDUE Influence to the point of BREAKING THE LAW.

Which Ironically may have Denied the Accused and Accusor the Right to JUSTICE in Having their Day in Court.

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Posted: 23 June 2010 08:55 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 12 ]
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Exactly my point GRASSY!...I think my posts reflect what you are saying so giving an example. Sorry to use you opening statement as my sounding board.
I have more to follow but will do it over a few nights.

Pity our media is so self Righteous and only publishes what it wants.
I must admit when Paul was the editor of the West a lot more came out than now.

What goes around comes around in my book but this guy has had to many chances.
Something the CCC is missing in its fight to chase Bourke etc..
Bourke did the crime and DID the time. And as your topic suggests it is not UNCOMMON....for some to circumnavigate DUE PROCESS due to their position.

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Posted: 23 June 2010 08:55 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 13 ]
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Cardy, beautifully written, copied, pasted and you are right it is a matter of public record.

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Posted: 23 June 2010 09:00 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 14 ]
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Porker - 23 June 2010 08:55 PM

Cardy, beautifully written, copied, pasted and you are right it is a matter of public record.

Thanks Porker...appreciate it..Glad to see someone else out there would like to see a bit of Justice.

Going off a bit of a tangent I could not believe the woman who was sexually abused by her Father was given Life the other. Ok it Justice must be seen to be done and you cant just murder people because they sexually abused you and raped you when you were a child BUT HEY?

My point is the courts with mandatory sentencing should really look at other options.
My advice to people is plead guilty , go to the lower court and get a light sentence but if your innocent plead NOT GUILTY go to the District Court and get LIFE IMPRISONMENT…

Lets look at a couple of examples and observations.

Mallard was gone and didnt have a chance because of illegal and evidence that was presented by police when it was tainted and they knew it.

The case of a boy accused of Rape recently where the girl admitted to police they she had lied but they proceed with the case for ego’s sake costing the family a lot of money to prove their son innocent!  No compensation…

The above case re the Footballer where there was definitely a miscarriage of justice.

A Royal Commission can only investigate but no prefer charges...In most cases the charges are not laid?

A definite case of Perverting the course of justice by DPP and Police.

Underbelly - The golden mile is an eye opener if you havent seen it and it still goes on.

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Posted: 24 June 2010 05:56 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 15 ]
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I must have missed something in regards to the Girl who LIED in the case of the young boy being held in Custody on FALSE Grounds.

Aren’t there provisions in the Law that would charge her with some OFFENCE for Wasting Police time and making FALSE Statements?And if it reached Court,what about PERJURY?

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